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Ant experience with Puravive anyone?

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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 10:27 PM on Tuesday, December 26th, 2023

I was just asking because I’m hoping to put some effort into losing some weight this year, and I have recently heard about this new product concerning brown fat cells.

Anytime I see a new product like this advertised online, I immediately try to go to "scam alert" sites to read reports.

But this seems pretty weird, because everything I pull up online to read about that product, is somehow linked back to ordering it. So that can’t be a legitimately unbiased opinion.

Any of you all tried it? Or heard of it? Or know anything about it?

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tushnurse ( member #21101) posted at 4:54 PM on Wednesday, December 27th, 2023

A quick Google search shows this is a trash product with high level marketing as it all comes back to the product. It also has many unknown substances and its effects on a person. It tries to appear as a evidence based research product. But it clearly is not.

If you do want to lose weight and get healthy the best advice is creating a calorie deficit, and to increase your protein intake and decrease carb intake. Protein has been proven to help satiate. It also is the lowest calorie per gram food type there is. New studies also indicate that high quality protein help to burn calories and fat more efficiently.

Goals of protein grams daily should he your ideal body weight plus 20 more. So if your ideal body weight (normal BMI) is 120 lbs, your daily protein goal should be 140 grams daily. Use an app to track your food intake like fitness pal or bariatastic. I know your time for exercise is very limited due to caregiving but maybe try to walk daily and get 6000-10k steps a day. It will most likely help you focus alleviate some stress and bump up your metabolism.

I would also recommend some daily supplements that will help you feel better and balance out what we all tend to be low in. Vitamin D, a Supe B complex, collagen, and a decent multi vitamin.

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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 10:26 PM on Friday, December 29th, 2023

Oh thanks for this info, tush.

I asked because it felt like there wasn’t enough information about that specific product.

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gr8ful ( member #58180) posted at 2:31 PM on Saturday, December 30th, 2023

About 2 months ago I was looking at myself in the mirror, and gaged I looked about 6+ months pregnant. Not a good look for a dude, imo. Finally hit that line where I was disgusted with what I saw. Couldn’t even remotely suck in my gut anymore 🤮

I’m one of those "all or nothing" guys so I dove into a pricy concierge program where I’m directly overseen by an MD who’s also a (moderate) bodybuilder. It involves 3 key legs to the stool:

1. A highly restrictive Keto type diet (zero sugar, no carbs, no dairy, no red meat, high protein every meal)
2. A ton of supplements and some Rx meds including a lower-dose Semaglutide (Ozempic), for now
3. A lifting & cardio regimen, lifting 3x/week and some form of cardio most every day

Over the past 8 weeks I’ve lost over 20 lbs of fat and I’m happy to say I’m only slightly pregnant now lol. My goal is not to lower the number on the scale but to get to 12% BMI and significantly increase muscle mass. As you may know, increasing your muscle mass increases your metabolism. Muscle burns calories merely by existing. Nice!

They’ve taught me things that now make sense like, I lift first, as that burns off sugars in my body, and then immediately move to approx one hour cardio (eg Peloton) but keeping my HR in Zone 2 to maximize fat burn. Since body sugars get burned off in lifting, the cardio directly burns fat. And it’s working!

Those who rely solely on drugs like Ozempic are likely doomed to fail long term since the moment you stop (and I’m thinking you really don’t want to be on stuff like that forever), the appetite and weight starts coming back. I’m convinced a mindset change driving behavioral changes (at least diet and exercise) is required for long term success. The Ozempic he’s prescribed is only meant to help transition to the new diet and take the edge off.

In this fat burn phase I’m currently in, the lifting is important to help reduce muscle loss, which will also occur with the cardio and diet. Once I’ve hit my BMI goal I will transition to a muscle building phase, which allows me to eat more.

There are no shortcuts if you want long term success. Don’t fall for any marketing that says otherwise.

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 WhatsRight (original poster member #35417) posted at 5:07 PM on Sunday, December 31st, 2023

gr8ful…

Ok…I’m impressed. Glad to read that you are down to a "just barely pregnant" look. Ha ha.

Not to be a defeatist, but I’m probably about 30 years your senior, and simply don’t have the funds or the joints to do what you are doing. But I am totally impressed and congratulate you for your efforts.

And, tush… To be totally honest, I can’t imagine that I would be so determined as to count grams of protein, etc. etc. etc. At least not on a long-term basis.

But I do plan to try to get in my 10,000 steps a day, as you suggested, tush. I was doing that a while back, but have digressed. Also, I’m just going to reduce the quantity and increase the quality of what I eat as much as I can without setting too high of a standard. My downfall recently is that my aspirations have always been too high. Also, I’m going to do better with my supplements and thyroid medicine.

I am older than God, and don’t have any intention or even desire to turn heads. Just want to be healthier and to feel better mostly… And not look freakishly overweight.

As I have gotten much older, I officially have no ass. I’m not saying that it’s small. I’m saying that when my glutes become my hamstrings, there is no deviation. Totally flat. It’s really pretty horrible. And to add insult to injury, my chest has gone from flat as a pancake through college, to basically just huge. And not sexy huge, but saggy and bulky, can’t see my toes, wandering into my armpits huge. So my pants still fit me… It’s just that they are very tight around the waistband and in the front, and totally saggy and "empty looking" from behind. And I mean a "double handful of empty fabric" empty. Not that anyone is looking.

So I’m just going to make a renewed effort to even care about my health, even my appearance. I know that part of the reason that I have been so sedentary is because of being a caregiver for my H. It’s not so much a vast amount of time that he needs from me every day, but because he can’t help himself even turn in the bed, I have to be available for whenever he needs me. So that pretty much restricts my activity, and therefore I lie around more than I should and snack way too much.

I guess posting this topic is my effort to find yet another thing I can throw in my mouth but with the reverse effect!

But I truly am going to try. At 70, there are limits to the possible results for me, but I do need to increase my stamina and just feel better overall. I’m looking at another rotator cuff surgery in a couple of months, and if memory serves…it is a tough rehab.

But I’m going to stay positive.

Uh…sorry. I seem to have been rambling. 😊

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